I love the geometry of the Redline d460. The last year of this fine steel frame was 2008 I believe, I bought a used one. The HA is 70.5, I think. I have 100 mm on there now, but 120mm would be even better. I believe the monocog an d the d440 share the same geo and maybe some of the newer alum. Redlines, (PP please correct me if I'm wrong...)
Like the Honzo (with which I have no experience) it's not lightweight, probly @ 5.5 # but bombproof.....and the price was good