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kernel crash
April 21st, 2009, 01:04 PM
Charles Krauthammer said this today:

“Daniel Ortega gave a 53 minute excoriating attack on the United States and Obama’s response was that “I’m grateful that Orega did not blame me for the things that occurred when I was 3 months old”. Does the narcissism of this man know no bounds; it’s not about him it’s about his country.”

EXACTLY! How perfect is that. Not since Clinton have we seen the pure definition of narcissism on display. In fact this guy makes Clinton look Bush league.

And this from Romney

"At last week’s Summit of the Americas, President Obama acquiesced to a 50-minute attack on America as terroristic, expansionist, and interventionist from Nicaraguan president Daniel Ortega. His response to Ortega’s denunciation of our effort to free Cuba from Castro’s dictatorship was that he shouldn’t be blamed “for things that happened when I was three months old.” Blamed? Hundreds of men, including Americans, bravely fought and died for Cuba’s freedom, heeding the call from newly elected president John F. Kennedy. But last week, even as American soldiers sacrificed blood in Afghanistan and Iraq to defend liberty, President Obama shrank from defending liberty here in the Americas.

In his first press interview as president, he confessed to Arabic television that America had “dictated” to other nations. No, Mr. President, America has fought to free other nations from dictators. And in Strasbourg, the president further claimed that America has “showed arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.” London’s Daily Telegraph observed that President Obama “went further than any United States president in history in criticizing his own country’s action while standing on foreign soil.” Of course, it was not just the Daily Telegraph that was listening: People around the world who yearn for freedom, who count on America’s resolve and support, heard him as well. He was heard in China, in Tibet, in Sudan, in Burma, and, yes, in Cuba."

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTYyYzEzMzBhNTgzMTBkZTk1N2I0MDIxZGMxN2Q3MDM=

Slappy
April 21st, 2009, 05:29 PM
Shoulda told him he makes shitty tacos.

Slider
April 22nd, 2009, 12:56 PM
The US has installed at least as many dictators as we've fought against. Read your history, and start with the Shah of Iran if you want to get some grounding in what led to the current political climate there.

Cuba's another great example. What to you suppose the Cubans were rejecting when they supported Castro?

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kernel crash
April 22nd, 2009, 01:01 PM
Using your logic, and Obama, I should start apologizing for Slavery that occurred here in America. But I should be quick to remind others that it didn't happen on my watch.

Slider
April 22nd, 2009, 01:05 PM
We are a democracy, and there have been many hands in the mix. It is both the advantage and disadvantage of democracy - policy sways many ways. We do need to take responsibilty for what we've done in the past, but emphasize that it doesn't mean that things will be that way going forward, which is really what Obama was saying.

But that won't stop opportunist flag wavers like Romney from attempting to make political points with the more reactionary types here.

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Mr_Cheeze
April 24th, 2009, 07:57 AM
Take responsibility or acknowledge the truth? Fundamental difference there. Responsibility should be taken by those who performed a given action. We are no more responsible for what the CIA did 60 years ago than we are for what Europeans did in bringing slaves to Haiti a half a century ago. Moving forward is a good thing. But politics has a way of making sure the real partisans never forget the bad stuff. Righties love to keep bringing up Clinton's indiscretions, and lefties will never forget Iran Contra or Bush's many serious blunders. So it's all well and good to say that we should move forward, but if you really believed that, SLider, then what say we dismiss any notions of charging George Bush with war crimes?

I don't take Obama's tone as narcissist. Hell, every main stream politician has to have a major dose of ego to simply be in their positions.

Slider
April 24th, 2009, 09:59 AM
I think we are talking about international relations here, and other countries are forced to deal with our actions, not the politics behind them. That's what the French memo regarding disarmament was addressing, our long term foot dragging.

We, as a country, ARE responsible for what we've done in the past, certainly from the persective of those outside the US that we hope to influence as we go forward. Can't get around perceptions except by acknowledging and dealing with them.

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Mr_Cheeze
April 25th, 2009, 08:33 AM
Acknowledging, ok. Take responsibility? Depends on what you mean. Reparations? Sorry. Wrong answer.

Slider
April 25th, 2009, 09:41 AM
I haven't heard any mention of reparations in our international relations. Policy change, that's all.

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