HR1955 - Another Step Towards Orwellian Reality

[Mr_Cheeze]

Do you like the Declaration Of Independence and the US Constitution?

I ask you, read this bill. HR1955 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955) Then digest the fact that this passed the House 404 to 6. Let that settle for a bit. Then consider the differences between the two parties and see if you are convinced that those differences are nothing less than superficial. Across the board, both Democrats and Republicans looked at this bill and think it is a good thing.

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Please, contact your Senators. I harbor no illusion at this point that it will make any difference, but who knows. Maybe they'll come to their senses.

HBO is running a great miniseries on John Adams. One cannot help but feel the tremendous pride that it evokes. Do you think that Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, and the rest would, to a man, vomit after reading this shite? That and more. Those Revolutionaries would fall victims to what this bill will accomplish. They would be locked up in Gitmo, all 56 of them. How fu*king ironic.

FYI: http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2007/cr120507h.htm

Further cementing my write-in plans should he not run independently.

[Mr_Cheeze]

Hmm... I guess that if it's not liberal or Bush bashing, then nobody is interested. Maybe I'm the only one who likes the freedom to be able to criticize the government on the internet.

[Slider]

Paul is right on in this criticism. I am glad to be aging, and to have no kids to live in the nasty world that we are now creating.

It isn't the intrusion that bothers me, but the power that it gives those who happen to be in charge. It is only a matter of time before democracy is an illusion, and the real policy is made in the dark recesses where any control freak with the right access can have his/her way. Homeland Security was the start, and it's all downhill from there.

End of quarter for me, so little time to rant here.

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[Longshanks]

I'm reporting both of you to Homeland Security.

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They already know.

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[Mr_Cheeze]

The fact that this passed, not just that easily, but right under our noses with very little debate, hell, there really wasn't any "debate" at all on the matter. Of course, they planned it that way. Still, I would have liked to have heard the sponsors, most of them Democrats, by the way, explain the ambiguous language throughout this bill.

I found this clip of one of the co-sponsors attempting to answer some questions.

HR 1955 Co-sponsor Rep. Perlmutter discusses the bill with TruthAlliance.net (http://www.truthalliance.net/Archive/CommunityArticles/tabid/76/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/327/Default.aspx)It is pretty obvious to me that he signed this thing without actually reading it. I'm guessing this is probably the case across the board. The presenter frames it as the fight against homeland terror, something already covered under the Patriot Act, disguising language that basically says that they can nab you for going on the wrong website and/or collecting material that they define as "promoting extremist belief". For example, the 9/11 conspiracy wackos can be targeted under the language of this bill.

The entire extent of the "debate" of this bill (scroll down to read the ful text of each speaker): http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=110-h20071023-31&bill=h110-1955

Rep. David "The Third" Reichart: "Because of the freedoms of our society, and the interconnected world we live in, radical ideas spread easily. These ideas can come from overseas or from within the United States. They can come from within prisons inside of isolated religious or ethnic enclaves or on the Internet. These ideas reach people in the privacy of their homes, via the Internet, and can be similarly assessed by vulnerable individuals at schools, libraries and universities."

Those freedoms. They're killing us.

[Slider]

It still has to pass the Supreme Court. Oh, wait. No problem with that bunch of morons.

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