Where's Al Sharpton and his minions when you need them?

[Slappy]

I'm sure they'll be marching the streets in Eastie since they're such anti-racism crusaders. Load up the buses you bunch of hypocrites!

Firefighter stabbed in Eastie pack attack

By Laurel J. Sweet | Monday, December 3, 2007 | http://www.bostonherald.com (http://www.bostonherald.com/) | Local Coverage (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/)
A Boston firefighter is mending from what could have been deadly stab wounds he suffered early yesterday morning when he was allegedly jumped in East Boston while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they “don’t want any gringo here.”
Though police are not classifying the incident as racially fueled, the Boston Police (http://news.bostonherald.com/search/?keyword=Boston+Police&searchSite=pubdate) Department’s Community Disorders Unit is investigating. The 32-year-old jake, whose name officials were not releasing, is white.
Ironically, the firefighter’s life was likely saved because he sought refuge from his alleged assailants at Engine 5 on Saratoga Street - the station house he’s assigned to.
“Fortunately, those firefighters were not out on a call,” said Boston Fire Department spokesman Steve MacDonald.
MacDonald said the firefighter had gone to Chivas Restaurant in Day Square to grab takeout when “six guys started exchanging words with him. He indicated he was just there to get a sandwich and that he was a firefighter. They pushed him.”
Hoping to avoid a confrontation, MacDonald said the firefighter got into his car and headed for his station for safety’s sake, but the pack followed him on foot. It was shortly before 2:45 a.m.
“As soon as he got out of his car, six guys jumped him and started kicking and punching him,” MacDonald said. “He felt two sharp pains in his chest and knew he had been stabbed.”
The firefighter summoned the help of fellow jakes by ringing the station doorbell and his alleged attackers fled. MacDonald said his injuries do not appear to be life-threatening.
“He’s more upset about the fact that he’s going to miss several shifts,” MacDonald said.
Policefound no suspects in the area, but urge anyone with information t 1-800-494-TIPS.

[Unbreakable]

has had to be more selective these days when it comes to inflaming racial tensions. Especially since the Tawana Brawley verdict... >> http://tinyurl.com/yozrnv

[bullitfreerider]

[QUOTE=Slappy;155406]I'm sure they'll be marching the streets in Eastie since they're such anti-racism crusaders. Load up the buses you bunch of hypocrites!

I would call Al a selfserving low life scum....hardly deserving of a "Rev" title.

[noreaster]

Wouldn't Al Sharpton usually get involved if african-americans were involved? There weren't any in this incident, that I can read. Also, I've never heard him support violence against whites.

Do think there are more racially-motivated committed by white people, or against white people? Is it really worth getting yourself into a lather over this? I'm of the opinion that any assault is awful, regardless of the colors of the victim or the perps.

People do awful things. That isn't news.

[bullitfreerider]

Wouldn't Al Sharpton usually get involved if african-americans were involved?


Exactly my point......he's a self serving racist.

[Mr_Cheeze]

Wouldn't Al Sharpton usually get involved if african-americans were involved? There weren't any in this incident, that I can read. Also, I've never heard him support violence against whites.

Do think there are more racially-motivated committed by white people, or against white people? Is it really worth getting yourself into a lather over this? I'm of the opinion that any assault is awful, regardless of the colors of the victim or the perps.

People do awful things. That isn't news.

Which is the perfect reasoning why there should be no such thing as a "hate crime". A crime is a crime is a crime. It's like "date rape". Is it rape or not?

Of course Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are hyprcrites. They are only about their self serving interests.

As to which type of racially motivated crime is more common these days, I certainly wouldn't assume that white-on-black crime is still the most common... even in the deep south. Reparations, affirmative action, hate crimes, quotas... it's all reverse racism.

[noreaster]

he's a self serving racist.

Few people aren't self-serving in one manner or another. However, his gig is to defend blacks against crimes which appear to him to be motivated by color. It's unreasonable to call him a racist because he didn't get involved in this case? Again, Sharpton has never advocated crime against whites or any other race.

I'm not a fan of Sharpton's tactics - he goes way overboard in almost every instance, but I can understand where he's coming from - if your people had been abused and enslaved for hundreds of years, you too may feel all tactics to obtain justice were warranted. I think he does a lot to undermind his own tactics by doing this, but I don't believe it makes him a racist. Bringing up a topic like this attack to attack Sharpton, who likely hasn't even heard of the incident, doesn't speak well for your own motives. Whatever point you're trying to make is also not well served by such Sharptonian-style attacks.

there should be no such thing as a "hate crime".
This logic appeals to my libertarian side. However, in reality, the reason hate crimes were written weren't because crime against a particular group is any worse than any other group - it's because enforcement of these crimes are often more lax. Many times since the crimes are committed by a majority group - those who enforce the law may have the same tendencies as those who committed the crimes and thus not enforce the crimes as strongly. The second reason is that hate tends to lead to the worst kind of crime - lynching is a particularly vile act, worse than a convenience store robbery gone wrong, thus, these laws try to present additional ammunition against these types of motivation.

Reparations, affirmative action, hate crimes, quotas... it's all reverse racism.

I'm also on the fence about affirmative action (libertarian thing again), but diversity is a useful thing in both a workplace and society, and should be supported - people tend to (even subconsciously) hire people like themselves. You could say AA actually levels this playing field in this instance.

The last thing to remember is it's really easy to say how awful your race has it, when it's never truly been discriminated against. You might have another view if you felt like an outcast in your own country, and people with similar skin color to your own have been discriminated against in that country for 300+ years.

[Mr_Cheeze]

Trying to end discrimination is one thing. To recreate the proverbial playing field in order to tip the balance in the other direction goes too far. Lynching is murder one, and the punishment should reflect murder one. (then again, I don't know how to worsen the punishment for murder one. Life in prison is life in prison. Or in Texas, death is death.) Assault and battery, whether it's white on black or vice-versa should reflect the crime as such. The white guy should not get a harsher punishment due to circumstances based on societal discomforts.

The same goes for affirmative action. Jobs in the public sector should be given according to merit, period. You're not helping minorities by allowing them to not have to work as hard to achieve success. It's the whole "give a man a fish" argument. Do you want people to be self-sufficient or to rely upon government, and, by extension, the taxpayers, to live their lives?

We are not advancing the general good of society by legislating reverse racism.

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Few people aren't self-serving in one manner or another. However, his gig is to defend blacks against crimes which appear to him to be motivated by color. It's unreasonable to call him a racist because he didn't get involved in this case? Again, Sharpton has never advocated crime against whites or any other race.

Sounds like your bending over backwards to put a good spin on Sharpton.

1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.

1991: A Hasidic Jewish driver in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section accidentally kills Gavin Cato, a 7-year-old black child, and antisemitic riots erupt. Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire. At Gavin's funeral he rails against the "diamond merchants" -- code for Jews -- with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. He mobilizes hundreds of demonstrators to march through the Jewish neighborhood, chanting, "No justice, no peace." A rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, is surrounded by a mob shouting "Kill the Jews!" and stabbed to death.

1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno.

Al Sharpton: The Democrat's David Duke

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2411

[noreaster]

You're not helping minorities by allowing them to not have to work as hard to achieve success.

Well the theory behind AffAct is that minorities have to work harder to get to the same positions that whites have achieved, due to direct racism, indirect, so-called "Institutional Racism," and sheer inertia of history. AffAct would work to level this.

Sounds like your bending over backwards to put a good spin on Sharpton.

Hardly, go back and re-read where I said I don't support his tactics. I merely saying attacking Sharpton in a case where he isn't remotely involved in is similarly spreading the hate that you are claiming Sharpton spreads, just in reverse. You could say you're bending over backwards to attack Sharpton.

[Slappy]

You could say you're bending over backwards to attack Sharpton.

Don't forget his minions. Them too. Anyone with the mindset that racism is an outrage unless it's levelled against a certain skin color is themself a racist correct? Isn't that what we're ALL supposed to be fighting against?

Shout out to Rev Jesse Lee Peterson!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADrDxDkrbFI&feature=related

[Mr_Cheeze]

Well the theory behind AffAct is that minorities have to work harder to get to the same positions that whites have achieved, due to direct racism, indirect, so-called "Institutional Racism," and sheer inertia of history. AffAct would work to level this.



Except that this "theory" does not actually work as such in practice, having the effect of allowing lesser qualified people to gain undeserved positions. This becomes greatly problematic for the public good when, for example, firefighters and policemen are hired based on quotas. Don't know about you, but I would feel a hell of a lot safer knowing that public safety personnel are the most qualified people for their jobs, and not simply a diverse lot.

Like most liberal policies that aim to promote social justice, AffAct has the effect of creating injustice.