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wannabee
February 28th, 2007, 04:09 PM
I have this almost new tire, with a foreign object protruding from the tread. I didn't see it. The tube did have a slow, a real slow leak, but who doesn't. The tube has a very tuff skin on the outside edge, which limited the release of air. It's heavy, but I don't have to add air every mile or so.
Well, back to the tire. The protruding object was a piece of glass, no bigger than a pencil point, stuck right thru the tire and the tube. Removing the glass, leaves a small hole. The tube is fixed. The tire, not yet.
Anybody 'patch' tires?
I can hear the true MTB guys say, "throw it away and get a new one". Well, the rest of the tire has hundreds (maybe thousands) of miles left. I've only ridden it a couple of times.
I'm thinking of just putting a 'tube' patch on the inside of the tire, similiar to what they do for passenger car tires.
Any thoughts????
mtbtom
February 28th, 2007, 04:24 PM
http://homepage1.nifty.com/kouzai/images3/duck_tape.jpg
Slappy
February 28th, 2007, 04:36 PM
True MTB guys swear by duct tape. :)
For larger holes, combine w/ a dollar bill or a piece of plastic milk jug to keep the tube from 'bubbling' thru, then ride it till it's a slick.
hogboy
February 28th, 2007, 04:48 PM
patch the inside of the tire with the same type of patch you used on the tube
that's all
if you wanna do more, pry the hole and plug it with a cheap-yet-effective automobile tire patch kit, where you drive a plug
of goop-rope through the hole. let that cure, then trim the excess after
it dries and cures
or pry the hole, clean with alcohol, let that dry, and plop some
shoe-goo in there, and also patch the inside with a tube patch
Slider
February 28th, 2007, 04:57 PM
A tube patch will usually bulge out and pop. I use old Tyvek racing number plates. They're tough and don't expand. Another solution is a dab of Shoe Goo. The stuff is amazing. I've even stitched sidewalls then covered them with the Goo, and it works for as long as the tread lasts.
Slider
wannabee
February 28th, 2007, 07:34 PM
Thanks mtbtom, slappy, hogboy & slider, for the ideas. Looks like i'm in a unique group. Patch, patch, and add some more patches.
I think the race number placard thinghie would give the most support, with the pressure that i'm running. I've got some left over from route66 events. Shoe goo would fill up the hole and make it more water proof. Where do you get shoe goo? HD or Lowes?
Oh, by the way, it's on a roadie tire (argh), 27 x 1-1/4, running about 90 lbs. They're getting kinda scarce. If the ideas work on mtb tires, they must work on roadie and cyclo cross tires, equally well.
Again, thanks for the input.
Slider
February 28th, 2007, 08:07 PM
The higher pressures mean more problems. I wouldn't trust it, especially considering the higher speeds. Definitely not in front. I bet you'll notice wheel balance issues too.
Bite the bullet and buy a tire.
Shoe Goo, BTW, is available at any good running shoe store. I got some at Ocean State Job Lots a year or so ago. But don't fix that tire, and run it on back if you do.
Slider
catbbq
March 1st, 2007, 09:01 AM
I ran with a huge gapping hole in my tire for a season using a beef jerky wrapper. Didn't notice any balance issues, but then I am not the most senstive rider.
wannabee
March 1st, 2007, 09:32 AM
balance was a concern, but it is on the outer (tread) side. my speeds aren't that terriffic, so it might not be that bad, unless i use a real thick patch. go thump, thump, thump......not side to side.
i do have a worn dorn (dried out) trainer tire, so this might be a better place for it. it won't go anywhere, so i'll be closd to home for repairs when it goes dead. no broken bottles there, hopefully.
throw it away, no way! it can always be cut down to make another liner for those made-at-home studded tires. always need narrow liners for those cyclocross tires.
beef jerky wrapper........hmmmmmm.....after consuming the jerky, right?
Husqvarna
March 1st, 2007, 01:26 PM
Clean it, dry it and super glue it.
heckler
March 1st, 2007, 09:35 PM
Simplest on-the-road patch that works basically untl the next patch is a piece of powerbar wrapper- nutrigrain- whatever. YOu want some mylar wrapper. totally unstretchable. Just wrap it around the tire loosely a couple times. there may b ea bit of a bulge but I have run those for hundreds of miles. now the next flat you get, you might want to replace it, or at the leat make sure it is still over the hole. dollar bills are also waterproof and unstretchable. I've run those for an entire year.
leebo
March 2nd, 2007, 06:59 PM
For a mtb tire with a 1/2 " rip in the side wall , I used needle and thread and liquid nails. If it is a small hole in the tire , try forcing the liquid nails in the hole with a screwdriver, let dry and trim with a knife.
hogboy
March 6th, 2007, 08:14 AM
hell if it is a road tire...
bite the bullet and get any crappy new tire
a budget road tire is 20 bucks and it'll be better than any patched one
I was thinking mtb tire initially.
robdesigns
March 6th, 2007, 11:11 AM
Ditto the above advice. Never patch a road tire. If you have a blow out in the woods, you usually hit a stationary object like the ground or a tree. You blow out a road tire, you hit the pavement, and then a car or truck hits you.
Rob
hell if it is a road tire...
bite the bullet and get any crappy new tire
a budget road tire is 20 bucks and it'll be better than any patched one
I was thinking mtb tire initially.
DVRider
March 6th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Lift tickets make excellent tire patches in a pinch. I think any spun bonded nonwoven fabric(like Slappy's dollar bills and slider's Tyvek) will work OK. But I have to agree with everyone else that you should probably buy a new tire as soon as it's feasible.
BigMac
March 13th, 2007, 05:08 PM
I used to ride with this guy who would continue patching until he could not patch any more. His tubes looked like a teenage kid with a really bad acne problem.
grnbkr
March 13th, 2007, 05:14 PM
small tears use duct tape, or when the threads of the tire are still in one piece (sidewalls) otherwise use a piece on nylon strap epoxied on the inside of the tire. This will eliminate any bulging of the tube through the hole in the tire.
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