So that's where our auto industry went

[kernel crash]

"Recall NAFTA. In 1993, we had a trade surplus with Mexico. Some of us warned it would be gone with the wind if NAFTA passed. And NAFTA did pass, through the collaboration of Clinton Democrats with Gingrich Republicans, over the opposition of the American people.

Since 1994, we have run a trade deficit with Mexico every year. In 2006, it hit a record $60 billion. Grand total: almost $500 billion in trade deficits with Mexico since NAFTA. Mexico now exports more than 900,000 vehicles to the United States every year, while the United States exports fewer than 600,000 cars and trucks to the entire world.

Where did Mexico get an auto industry? Is it good that our auto industry is being exported? Has the price of a new car plunged because Mexicans get paid a fraction of what U.S. autoworkers earn?

It is no accident all four presidents who made it to Mount Rushmore were protectionists."


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19590

[BG]

Ah good old America. We are such an unselfish breed aren't we.

[Mr_Cheeze]

From the same website... and I believe, the real agenda by the globalists like Bush... AND Clinton, et. al.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965

[BG]

[QUOTE=Mr_Cheeze;145412]From the same website... and I believe, the real agenda by the globalists like Bush... AND Clinton, et. al.

Oh yes. The inevitable. That secret scary agenda.

BG

[kernel crash]

"So unless you are a low-skilled laborer, I wouldn't worry too much about the Chinese."

True, but its not only about the low skilled jobs that nobody wants. When you look at the trade deficit with China you have to remember all those billions of american dollars flowing out of this country into the pockets of the Chinese. Now they use that money to grow their economy, and their military, and continue the deficit cycle. They also create tarrifs and manipulate their currancy to make our goods less affordable to their markets. If we had a fair trading field where everybody played by the same rules, that would be one thing. But that's not how it works these days. The numbers don't lie. You can't grow and sustain your economy with deficit numbers like these.

[off piste]

From the same website... and I believe, the real agenda by the globalists like Bush... AND Clinton, et. al.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965

Hmmmmm, interesting. It wasn't too long ago that you dismissed a similar link as conspiracy theory bunk.:confused:

[Dino Sore]

According to Adam Smith, there is no such thing as a trade deficit. All trade is, by definition, balanced. If the Koreans, for example, want to send us cars, and are willing to take back green pieces of paper with pictures of dead presidents, then fine. We got what we wanted, and so did they.

Next topic.

[BG]

http://business.clemson.edu/CIT/TradeDeficitBkgrnd.pdf

[catbbq]

http://business.clemson.edu/CIT/TradeDeficitBkgrnd.pdf


That chart on page 2 looks alot like the temp chart they use to prove global warming.... I smell collusion.

http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/images/globaltempdiff.GIF

[BG]

That chart on page 2 looks alot like the temp chart they use to prove global warming.... I smell collusion.

http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/images/globaltempdiff.GIF


Ahhhhh!! Watson, you've discovered the real reason behin global warming.

[Mr_Cheeze]

Hmmmmm, interesting. It wasn't too long ago that you dismissed a similar link as conspiracy theory bunk.:confused:

It wasn't me dismissing anything. You're probably confusing me with someone else. In fact, I've brought up the issue before. And it's hardly implausible, if not inevitable. Perhaps the only entity not necessarily interested in such a merger would be the snotty neighbors to our north. Certainly Vicente Fox would welcome such a proposal. Scoff at the notion all you want. At this period of time it may be nothing more than pie in the sky. 100 years from now there won't be a Mexico with which we have a trade decifit, for it will be erased when it becomes the 51st and up states, in essence. It will be the only solution as trade decifits with China continue to increase, and while the value of the dollar drops versus the Euro. This has nothing to do with conspiracy and everything to do with forecasting economics and maybe taking it a step further. Also, in looking at the immigration issue, it's another potential solution down the line. Make all Mexicans statesmen in exchange for allowing us to move the border fence to the real problem area in the south. Go forward even further and maybe eveything down to Panama become a part of the union. Just a guess.

[Mr_Cheeze]

[quote=Mr_Cheeze;145412]From the same website... and I believe, the real agenda by the globalists like Bush... AND Clinton, et. al.

Oh yes. The inevitable. That secret scary agenda.

BG

There is nothing at all secret about Bush's globalist agenda.