Al-Zarqawi is Dead!

[TrailBate]

Wahoo! The war is over! The troops can come home! no more car bombs! No more kidnappings! No more severed heads found in fruit boxes! Stocks will soar! Oil prices will plummet! Iraq has reached a turing point! We have turned a corner!

"But any hopes the Jordanian-born terror leader's death would help stem the violence in Iraq were dimmed hours later when a car bomb exploded in a Baghdad market, killing 19 and wounding 65."

oh. damn. Time to start playing up Al-Sadr next. Gotta keep those troops motivated.

[slapheadmofo]

Good riddance. One down, many many thousands to go.

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[kernel crash]

What, you didn't think that stuff would stop over night did you? He got off too easy. Probably never saw it coming. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's dead. I just wished he would have gotten riddled with many bullets first. Now lets see, as part of the Republican grand plan, get Osama right around halloween. Ya that's the ticket.

[TrailBate]

Gotta create the next boogeyman for Bush to capture to raise his approval ratings...


"BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Major General William Caldwell, chief U-S military spokesman in Iraq, says Egyptian-born Abu al-Masri is the "most logical" successor. He's thought to have trained in Afghanistan before going to Baghdad with the mission of creating an al-Qaida cell"

I think Iraqi's should have an election for the next "senior Al-qaida leader."

[kernel crash]

"Gotta create the next boogeyman for Bush to capture to raise his approval ratings..."

Are you implying that al-Zarqawi was a "boogeyman" created by this administration? Sounds like the liberal talking point are going out to try to spin this already. And Trail bait never misses a good talking point.

"The Huffington Post gave this theme a nice boost:
Well, for one thing, Zarqawi was an invented menace"

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5564

[FriedRys]

Gotta create the next boogeyman for Bush to capture to raise his approval ratings...
Just a little reminder about this Boogeyman of Bush's creation for you folks with short memories. I wonder what Nick Berg thinks about this?

http://video.yahoo.com/video/search?p=nick+Berg&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8

[TrailBate]

"Gotta create the next boogeyman for Bush to capture to raise his approval ratings..."

Are you implying that al-Zarqawi was a "boogeyman" created by this administration? Sounds like the liberal talking point are going out to try to spin this already. And Trail bait never misses a good talking point.





Yes. He was overhyped. God forbid Americans should think that our presence over there is not wanted by the general population. Easier to pick one guy to blame it all on. Just like when the media is done beating a story to death, like the runaway bride. As soon as it's over, find the next stupid story to try to get everyone's attention focused on.
Same with this guy. There are thousands like him in Iraq. Nothing will change.

Perhaps Bush should go after the guy who actually attacked us? Osama bin-what's-his-name.

[slapheadmofo]

Good riddance. One down, many many thousands to go.



As I was saying...

[kernel crash]

"Yes. He was overhyped"

Funny. I never heard you make that statement before. Now after we kill him, he's overhyped. Just what the liberal left wing blogs are saying. See you lose credibility when you say something like that because you have no paper trail where you previously thought he was overhyped. So now you sound like your just repeating the left wing spin.

[FriedRys]

Easier to pick one guy to blame it all on.BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! Like George Bush? Pot, this is Kettle, Kettle meet Pot.

[Slider]

"Yes. He was overhyped"

Funny. I never heard you make that statement before. Now after we kill him, he's overhyped. Just what the liberal left wing blogs are saying. See you lose credibility when you say something like that because you have no paper trail where you previously thought he was overhyped. So now you sound like your just repeating the left wing spin.


Your recollection is faulty. Pull up all of TrailBait's posts. Search on Zarqawi. He made the same point as far back as October, and again, later. There's your paper trail.

And it is a good point. Al Queda is a many-headed beast. Stopping any particular "leader" makes little difference, not even for the US propaganda effort, which is only taken seriously by Bush drones.

Want a difference in Iraq? Try building a real political and economic infrastructure that addresses the fact that the various factions there simply don't want to live together. Let them build separate countries.

But that will never happen with Bush running the show, since it would drastically complicate his efforts to control the oil there.

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Easier to pick one guy to blame it all on.BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! Like George Bush? Pot, this is Kettle, Kettle meet Pot.


How, exactly, does the political structure of the US compare to Iraq's? You're comparison BEFORE we ousted Saddam might work, but it is really inane now.

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[TrailBate]

Easier to pick one guy to blame it all on.BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! Like George Bush? Pot, this is Kettle, Kettle meet Pot.


Huh? Are you trying to say Al-Zarqawi holds the same power and authority as Bush? ???

[slapheadmofo]

That would be silly - we all know only GWB can control the weather.

[BG]

Workin' on it...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-517

BG

[Rych]

Gotta create the next boogeyman for Bush to capture to raise his approval ratings...





He took 7 minutes to saw off the head of an American with a rusty sword on video for every American to see. That is pretty much the definition of "the boogyman".

[TrailBate]

He took 7 minutes to saw off the head of an American with a rusty sword on video for every American to see. That is pretty much the definition of "the boogyman".


Nobody is arguing the guy wasn't a murderer.

My question is, what does this change? There are a thousand guys in Iraq just like him.

[slapheadmofo]

He took 7 minutes to saw off the head of an American with a rusty sword on video for every American to see. That is pretty much the definition of "the boogyman".


Nobody is arguing the guy wasn't a murderer.

My question is, what does this change? There are a thousand guys in Iraq just like him.


999 now.

And counting...

[BG]

Gotta love a good Whack-A-Mole game.

BG

[GeepNutt]

Medical Examiner's Autopsy Report Just In....

Al-Zarqawi died from injuries consistent with having 2 Five Hundred pound laser guided missles dropped on your a$$..... ;D

[kernel crash]

"My question is, what does this change? There are a thousand guys in Iraq just like him. "

I think that quite an exageration. They don't have his carisma, "cache" and his knack for a good photo op. He was on a level that only a few dozen can claim.

[TrailBate]

"My question is, what does this change? There are a thousand guys in Iraq just like him. "

I think that quite an exageration. They don't have his carisma, "cache" and his knack for a good photo op. He was on a level that only a few dozen can claim.


And it was Bush that put him there. That's all I'm saying. More than 50 Iraqi's have been killed since he was killed.

[kernel crash]

"More than 50 Iraqi's have been killed since he was killed. "

Yes, that would probably happen whether or not we were there. I believe over 19 thousand Americans were murdered here in the United States last year. Are we any less violent than they are?

[TrailBate]

"More than 50 Iraqi's have been killed since he was killed. "

Yes, that would probably happen whether or not we were there.

Really? car bombs, kidnappings, beheadings, high school students being pulled off buses in broad daylight to be shot in the head? All this stuff would "probably" happen anyway? Yeah, don't think so.


I believe over 19 thousand Americans were murdered here in the United States last year. Are we any less violent than they are?



Yeah, at least those Iraqi's weren't in Detroit! Those lucky bastards.....

[kernel crash]

My point is clear. When your dead, your dead. If you meet a violent end, what's the difference of getting shot in Detroit or beheaded in Iraq.

[Mr_Cheeze]

hmmm... I don't really get your point either. I don't see how anyone could deny that the tens of thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths as a result of this manufactured war are a travesty. Nobody can say that the same number of innocent civilians would have been murdered under the dictator Hussein. Saddam might have been an evil brute, but he was an enemy to the Muslims. It was never proven that he supported al Qaeda. That was certainly one the the many lies told to justify an invasion.

To think that somehow the killing of al Zarqawi will make a dent in al Qaeda is just as much wishful thinking as the lefties believing that Abramoff is going to bring down the Republican House.

[slapheadmofo]

The guilt for those deaths falls 100% on the savages doing the killing. Nowhere else.

[kernel crash]

The only point I was trying to make after TB said "More than 50 Iraqi's have been killed since he was killed," was what did you think. Violence would end overnight in Iraq? Why would it? Violence is never ending in every corner of the earth.

[TrailBate]

My point is clear. When your dead, your dead. If you meet a violent end, what's the difference of getting shot in Detroit or beheaded in Iraq.




So you have nothing against Osama or Al Qaida then? Those people in the World Trade towers were going to die sometime anyway....

Dumbest argument I've ever heard.

[TrailBate]

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_riverbendblog_archive.html#114954848489 173468


"Zarqawi...
So 'Zarqawi' is finally dead. It was an interesting piece of news that greeted us yesterday morning (or was it the day before? I've lost track of time…). I didn't bother with the pictures and film they showed of him because I, personally, have been saturated with images of broken, bleeding bodies.

The reactions have been different. There's a general consensus amongst family and friends that he won't be missed, whoever he is. There is also doubt- who was he really? Did he even exist? Was he truly the huge terror the Americans made him out to be? When did he actually die? People swear he was dead back in 2003… The timing is extremely suspicious: just when people were getting really fed up with the useless Iraqi government, Zarqawi is killed and Maliki is hailed the victorious leader of the occupied world! (And no- Iraqis aren't celebrating in the streets- worries over electricity, water, death squads, tests, corpses and extremists in high places prevail right now.)

I've been listening to reactions- mostly from pro-war politicians and the naïveté they reveal is astounding. Maliki (the current Iraqi PM) was almost giddy as he made the news public (he had even gone the extra mile and shaved!). Do they really believe it will end the resistance against occupation? As long as foreign troops are in Iraq, resistance or 'insurgency' will continue- why is that SO difficult to understand? How is that concept a foreign one?

"A new day for Iraqis" is the current theme of the Iraqi puppet government and the Americans. Like it was "A New Day for Iraqis" on April 9, 2003 . And it was "A New Day for Iraqis" when they killed Oday and Qusay. Another "New Day for Iraqis" when they caught Saddam. More "New Day" when they drafted the constitution… I'm beginning to think it's like one of those questions they give you on IQ tests: If 'New' is equal to 'More' and 'Day' is equal to 'Suffering', what does "New Day for Iraqis" mean?

How do I feel? To hell with Zarqawi (or Zayrkawi as Bush calls him). He was an American creation- he came along with them- they don't need him anymore, apparently. His influence was greatly exaggerated but he was the justification for every single family they killed through military strikes and troops. It was WMD at first, then it was Saddam, then it was Zarqawi. Who will it be now? Who will be the new excuse for killing and detaining Iraqis? Or is it that an excuse is no longer needed- they have freedom to do what they want. The slaughter in Haditha months ago proved that. "They don't need him anymore," our elderly neighbor waved the news away like he was shooing flies, "They have fifty Zarqawis in government."

So now that Zarqawi is dead, and because according to Bush and our Iraqi puppets he was behind so much of Iraq's misery- things should get better, right? The car bombs should lessen, the ethnic cleansing will come to a halt, military strikes and sieges will die down… That's what we were promised, wasn't it? That sounds good to me. Now- who do they have to kill to stop the Ministry of Interior death squads, and trigger-happy foreign troops?"

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"So you have nothing against Osama or Al Qaida then? Those people in the World Trade towers were going to die sometime anyway...."

What ??? WTF, I have no idea what the hell your talking about or what point your trying to make. I was only responding to your point... "My question is, what does this change? There are a thousand guys in Iraq just like him. " I felt you were deliberately downplaying the importance of such a high value, high visablity target. Which coincidentally was exactly what the left and the liberal bloggers were doing the very next day. So you took your marching orders well.

Does his death mean everything gets better overnight? Nobody believes that, and nobody is saying that. And what's the point of that blog you quote? That's only one guys opinion. Not worth more or less than anybody else on this forum. You put that up like its some divine revalation. How will Zarqawi's death influence the results in Iraq? Check back in 6 to 12 months. By then the answer will be obvious.

[TrailBate]

Does his death mean everything gets better overnight? Nobody believes that, and nobody is saying that. And what's the point of that blog you quote? That's only one guys opinion. Not worth more or less than anybody else on this forum.



Yeah, it's a real Iraqi living in Baghdad. you know, one of those people that is "going to die anyway."

[kernel crash]

Ya. Maybe this guy really lives in Bagdad or maybe he lives in Fresno. Who knows when your dealing with this kind of stuff from the internet. But he asks "Did he even exist?" "Was he truly the huge terror the Americans made him out to be?" Hey if this guy is living in Bagdad doesn't he know the answer to these questions? "When did he actually die?" "He was an American creation". Ahh. Now were getting into conspiricies. Look your using one guys quote and I'm sure there are others that feel like him. But I'm also sure there are others there that have a different opinion and your not posting those. And don't ask me to look for them and post them because I don't spend any time reading blogs from the internet. It all a bunch of spin and you really don't know where its coming from.

[TrailBate]

Pathetic. Instead of believing HER words, you choose to make her a fake creation instead? I'm not surprised. Totally pathetic. Why don't you actually Read through it.

[kernel crash]

Pathetic? You want pathetic. How about "Did he even exist?" That sounds pretty pathetic. And she lives there! Ya lets shape our foreign policy around this anonymous blogger.

[Mr_Cheeze]

If it weren't for lefty bloggers, how is he supposed to get all of his information about what goes on at Fox News? Cuz you know he ain't actually watching it. None of them do. And if it weren't for falsely unbiased watchdogs likeMedia Matters (http://mediamatters.org/), they would all have to do their own dirty work.

[TrailBate]

If it weren't for lefty bloggers, how is he supposed to get all of his information about what goes on at Fox News? Cuz you know he ain't actually watching it. None of them do. And if it weren't for falsely unbiased watchdogs likeMedia Matters (http://mediamatters.org/), they would all have to do their own dirty work.


who are you talking about?

[kernel crash]

Sounds like these guys are struggling to regain their footing.

"In general and despite the current bleak situation, we think that the best suggestions in order to get out of this crisis is to entangle the American forces into another war against another country or with another of our enemy force, that is to try and inflame the situation between American and Iraq or between America and the Shi'a in general.

Specifically the Sistani Shi'a, since most of the support that the Americans are getting is from the Sistani Shi'a, then, there is a possibility to instill differences between them and to weaken the support line between them; in addition to the losses we can inflict on both parties. Consequently, to embroil America in another war against another enemy is the answer that we find to be the most appropriate, and to have a war through a delegate has the following benefits:"


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_TERROR_BLUEPRINT_TEXT?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME& TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-06-15-08-58-36

[FriedRys]

Obviously planted there by the Bush Administration in a pathetic attempt to make it look as if the noble Iraqi Freedom Fighters are losing. :'(

[BG]

NEXT.....

[slapheadmofo]

Oh man - he's got a fair resemblance to a friend of mine who's visiting family in Iran right now. He's gonna have an even more fun than usual getting back into the country. ;D

[Mr_Cheeze]

I had a similar thought. He looks like half of the Joes and Mannys and Victors in Fall River.

[slapheadmofo]

The Portugese branch of Al-Queisidilla is thriving in this gritty blue-collar MA town, and dealing in everything from home made bombs to home made wine that gets you bombed. Film at eleven.

[Rych]

He took 7 minutes to saw off the head of an American with a rusty sword on video for every American to see. That is pretty much the definition of "the boogyman".


Nobody is arguing the guy wasn't a murderer.

My question is, what does this change? There are a thousand guys in Iraq just like him.


Nope. 999 guys just like him now.

[TrailBate]

Yep, good thing we killed Zarqawi......

"Children among 40 killed in Baghdad 'massacre'

Gunmen roaming a Baghdad neighborhood today killed at least 40 unarmed Iraqis, including women and children, as soon as they identified them as Sunnis, Iraqi police and officials said. A spokesman for the Iraqi Islamic Party called the killings "one of the biggest massacres of Sunnis."