SC Judge retires... Let The Games Begin

[Mr_Cheeze]

Sandra Day O'Conner... out. Who's up next? Most likely a Democrat filibuster, no matter who is nominated. Does that mean the dreaded "nuclear option"? I hope so. I just want to see fireworks.

[Rych]

I think Bush will throw out some sort of sacrificial lamb that the Democrats can savage, and reject. That way the Dems can point to their victory while Bush gets the nominee he really wants.

[truckboy]

Just like "The West Wing".

[Mr_Cheeze]

Fathead Kennedy is already yapping his fat jowles, proclaiming his preference for a candidate that will "bring the country together" like O'Conner did. Translation, someone who will uphold Roe v. Wade and affirmative action.

This whole process will of course be mainly about abortion. I have already stated my personal discomfort with this reality. That being said, this is the one chance for the Democrats to fight for their acceptable candidate; because if Renquist later retires, they will have pretty much no leverage in demanding a moderate replacement for a conservative judge. So I expect a grandstanding effort over the next several weeks or months. This could last a long time if Bush is not prepared to do exactly what Rych supposes. Don't think that the Democrats aren't ready for that strategy, though. I predict that the Republicans will play their trump card at some point, requiring an up or down vote.

[TrailBate]

Bush appoints a conservative judge, Dems filibuster. Repubs do the nuke option thingy. Government comes to another standstill. Bush's ratings in the polls will continue to dive (except the one about favoring impeachment, which will rise). Bush becomes desperate and looks for ways to invade Iran.

The only thing that'll save Bush would be another terrorist attack.

[MTBME]

Bush appoints a "very" conservative judge.
Dems filibuster.
Bush pulls back appointment and selects a conservative judge.
Dems agree.
Dems feel like they got what they wanted.
Bush feels like he got what he wanted.
Everybody wins?

[sizlinseagulsoup]

problem. Dems never feel like they've won and republicans never feel like they've won enough...

[Rych]

The fact is Bush won the election. He gets to put the judge he wants in, just as Clinton did with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Its the same situation in reverse. Clinton won the election, he got who he wanted.

[Mr_Cheeze]

If only it were that simple. Bush is working against a tremendous tide of disfavor nationally, and the Democrats know this. That and the fact that many of those Senators still consider his Presidency illigitimate, so they are going to oppose his choices on principal, just as they have on every cabinet and lower court appointment. It is rather unfortunate that politics is going to play such a huge role in this. The Supreme Court is the one branch that should be sheltered from this nastiness, as their job is simply to interpret the law, and not to legislate from the bench; something the "progressives" do not seem to understand. Then again, I guess they have to bear such consequences for opting to become involved in the 2000 Presidential election.

[TrailBate]

The fact is Bush won the election. He gets to put the judge he wants in, just as Clinton did with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Its the same situation in reverse. Clinton won the election, he got who he wanted.


The typical Right Wing talking point. I got to listen to Limbaugh the other day rant about how the only time people have a say in their government is on election day. Bush won, so he gets to do whatever he wants, and democrats just have to shut up until they win an election. A nice little argument that says the american population has no say in their government for the next 3 1/2 years. Total BS. Just like everything else he says.

A couple of other words of wisdom from Limbaugh I've listened to lately

1. Africa needs to stop begging and complaining.

2. We should send Halliburton into Africa. They will finish ahead of schedule and under budget. (not sure exactly what he's trying to say. but...whatever)

3. He's selling Club Gitmo t-shirts. He's having a photo contest. He wants people to wear these shirts around liberals, and send in photos of their reactions. Kinda funny, but pretty stupid.

[Rych]

The American's already spoke. They want a conservative. That is why they rehired Bush. The only say the people should have now (through the Senate) is whether the candidate is qualified to be on the court. Political ideology should not play a part. That is why the republicans confirmed Lefty Ruth Bater Ginsberg 93-7 (I think this stat is close).

[TrailBate]

The American's already spoke. They want a conservative. That is why they rehired Bush. The only say the people should have now (through the Senate) is whether the candidate is qualified to be on the court. Political ideology should not play a part. That is why the republicans confirmed Lefty Ruth Bater Ginsberg 93-7 (I think this stat is close).


Yeah? Bush was re-elected because Americans want a conservative justice? I thought they re-elected him because they wanted more lead in their drinking water. Or was it because they wanted more wars? Fewer trees? illegal abortions?

Saying Bush was re-elected because people want a conservative supreme court is just a baseless, assinine right wing talking point.

[Rych]

So American's elect a more conservative President (let's be honest he's not really conservative) yet you think that they would want a justice who has a liberal interpretation of the constitution? This is the spoils of war, Bush, Rove, and the religious right won. The Liberals, Kerry, Fat Teddy lost. It's time the Democrats go back and rethink there platform so that they can align themselves better with mainstream America. Appointing Howard Dean to lead the party was a bad start.

[TrailBate]

http://www.pollingreport.com/Court.htm


hmmm, looks like not too many people agree with you.

[Rych]

Is that one of the same polls that had John Kerry elected?

[TrailBate]

Maybe you should actually visit the site first, ay? If you did, you woudn't be asking that question.

[Mr_Cheeze]

http://www.pollingreport.com/Court.htm


hmmm, looks like not too many people agree with you.


Hmmm... exactly hgow did you interpret the poll, because from what I see, the result do in fact show that a majority of pollees prefer a more conservative justice who will interpret the law and not attempt to legislate from the bench. The recent disapproval rating for the SC stems directly from their recent unpopular decision in the Kelo v. New London case. And need I remind you, they were the liberal justices who decided for New London.