New Huffy

[ArmOnFire]

Somehow he doesn't look right wearing the Huffy shirt.

Huffy / WCC Link (http://www.huffybikes.com/wcc/)
* Heavy flash site *

[AA]

so much for the rebel biker image...... Hell I'd sell out too. I'm sure he is making a bundle on all the endorsement deals.

[truckboy]

Whatever. He's a twit to begin with in my opinion. Just the right guy to hook up with Huffy if you ask me.

[Ben-O]

I like how they darkened out his arm tattoos. It doesn't even look like he was actually posing next to the bike. Now, I'd like to see him actually ride that bike around town...

[ArmOnFire]

I'm sure the stem will go over real good in the more urban areas.

How long before we see one on a DH rig?

[YerMom]

What's wrong with Huffy? Somebody has to make bikes in the low end price points, if for nothing else but to make bikes affordable to lower income families. Are you slagging Pacific and all of the other low-end bike companies as well?

Personally I don't ride a Huffy because any hardcore cyclist knows that you need a quality bike to do some serious riding (and pay accordingly for it). But that doesn't mean I feel it's OK to be an elitist and slag them.

[ArmOnFire]

No beef with Huffy, I just thought it was funny that bad @$$ JJ was wearing the Huffy shirt, and that he is making a kids bicycle.

Here's my latest Huffy......well it's part of one.

If it weren't for his shows though, I might have never gotten a welder.

[YerMom]

Yeah, I should have indicated that my respnse was intended mainly for truckboy and AA.

The WCC bike that James and Huffy are teaming up on is very similar to the Schwinn that the OCC guys consulted on. They are all going after the same demographic (well, really the dads that watch Monster Garage and the OCC and not the kids) ;D

[bdee]

YerMom

[Personally I don't ride a Huffy because any hardcore cyclist knows that you need a quality bike to do some serious riding (and pay accordingly for it). But that doesn't mean I feel it's OK to be an elitist and slag them.




In my book it's always OK to slag Huffy, Murray etc. I spent 5 years paying my bills in college resuscitating POS bikes. I developed a real hatred of those bikes and the fools that build them incorrectly. I know they allow people to get into riding, blah, blah, blah - but they still royally suck. Hell, most folks riding Huffys risk being turned off rather than turned on to cycling.
I'm all for affordable bikes for low income folks to enjoy, and use for transportation. A little more QC and better parts, and consequently more $$, and the bikes would last longer and not become money pit POS machines - thereby draining the wallets of the poor folks riding them.

Besides, being an elitist jerk is what we all looove to do here ;). I can't tell you how many liquor cycle riders I harrass on my way home from work everyday, it's a great time. That and the poor kids in my neighborhood, I love to rag on their bikes (when I'm not busy fixing them so they can drag race 'em down the hill at like 30mph - amazing what Fred Flinstone style braking can accomplish when you're a determined 10 yr old).
*** Sarcasm alert - fair warning

[AA]

Yeah, I should have indicated that my respnse was intended mainly for truckboy and AA.

The WCC bike that James and Huffy are teaming up on is very similar to the Schwinn that the OCC guys consulted on. They are all going after the same demographic (well, really the dads that watch Monster Garage and the OCC and not the kids) ;D



Not really sure what I said that would make you think I was bagging on Huffy. My comment was aimed at Jesse James and his supposed bad ass rebel image. He is taking on more corperate sponsorships than most athletes or entertainers. I'm ranking on Jesse, feel free to comment on that if you like.

Huffy on the otherhand does lots major sponsorhip deals in the BMX & freestyle markets and even produce usable products. I have no beef w/ Huffy or other mass produced bikes. Most cyclist got the fever riding a department store bike.

[YerMom]

Not really sure what I said that would make you think I was bagging on Huffy. My comment was aimed at Jesse James and his supposed bad ass rebel image.


Sorry bout that, I guess my eyes are getting fuzzy from riding my full rigid SS on too many rough trails. Ack!

:o

Yeah, anyone who is dating Sandra Bullock can't be too BA. She's awfully wholesome ;D. At least, that's what she said when she refused to return my calls.

[AA]

Sandra Bullock hmmm, he could do worse. I bet she isnt that wholesome ;D

[ArmOnFire]

JJ is dating Sandra Bullock?!

What happened to Janine Lindemulder? Was she too abusive?

EDIT:
What the heck is up with the display of this thread?

[YerMom]

Sandra Bullock hmmm, he could do worse. I bet she isnt that wholesome ;D


Mmmmm. Once can only hope. My GF knows how much I like her, she even has a derrogatory nickname for her when I am watching a movie and am drooling-----"Sandra Buttox". :-*

Jesse and Janine were divorced awhile back. Interesting jump from her to Sandra, eh?

[truckboy]

Huffys suck. They have always sucked. Huffy is the name you use when you want to call a bike cheap. It's been like that since before they came out with the "Thunder Road" when I was a kid....... A long time ago..... Why do you think they have things like the "huffy toss"? Throw in a Magna here and there and now add (sniffle) Schwinn to that list.
yeah I had my share of cheap bikes, but even as a kid I knew that

HUFFYS SUCK!!!!

As for Jesse The Dullard James; he can do what he wants. I don't care who he sleeps with (although I'd like a shot at Sandra Buttocks myself). I put him up there with other NON-celebrity types like Paris Hilton and Ed McMahon. He at least has SOME talent, but not as a TV personality if you ask me.

A Dullard's celebrity for a Dullard's bike: the perfect match.


BRING ON THE FLAMES!!!! IT'S MONDAY AND I'M BORED!!!

[YerMom]

Huffys suck. They have always sucked. Huffy is the name you use when you want to call a bike cheap. It's been like that since before they came out with the "Thunder Road" when I was a kid....... A long time ago..... Why do you think they have things like the "huffy toss"? Throw in a Magna here and there and now add (sniffle) Schwinn to that list.
yeah I had my share of cheap bikes, but even as a kid I knew that

HUFFYS SUCK!!!!

As for Jesse The Dullard James; he can do what he wants. I don't care who he sleeps with (although I'd like a shot at Sandra Buttocks myself). I put him up there with other NON-celebrity types like Paris Hilton and Ed McMahon. He at least has SOME talent, but not as a TV personality if you ask me.

A Dullard's celebrity for a Dullard's bike: the perfect match.


BRING ON THE FLAMES!!!! IT'S MONDAY AND I'M BORED!!!



Wow, thanks for the enlightened, educated, well-written reponse.

So all cheap bikes suck? Remember that when your 4 year old son wants his first bike, and you go shopping for a 16" bike that will get him started on (hopefully) a lifelong practice of riding and staying fit. Be certain you shell out big bucks on a custom-built bike with one-off 16" Cross-Max wheels and mini-XTR. Because, you certainly wouldn't want your son to ride a dullard's bicycle. What would that say about his father?

[Curtis Chase]

I would say the biggest problem with Huffy's and other such bikes is the time and care taken in their assembly, which is really lacking. They don't have top notch components and they aren't super light weight. They are strong, will take a beating in most circumstances, and are very affordable. The problem comes when you have unskilled, minimum wage workers building them that don't know how to do it right, and the bike becomes dangerous for someone to ride.

You also have to factor in the budgets of different groups of people. To millions, a bike is a bike is a bike, and they aren't going to drop a grand into a bike when they think they're all the same...

On the flip side, I never owned a Huffy. My father never spent a fortune (ie $1000 bikes) when I was younger, but he certainly wanted me to have a high quality bike that I would be safe on and that would last a long time in a good condition.

My first bike was a Giant Frantic. Probably not much better than a Huffy. But I still have it. The wheels are true, they spin well, the chain is not rusted, the frame is still shiny, and it has a lot of mileage. My friends Huffy's and Murray's and Pacifics? They're covered in rust where the paint has just disappeared, the wheels wobble, the shifters don't work, the brakes have hardened to the point where they don't work... the list goes on.

And, AND... I'm still riding. My friends with the Huffy's? Not many of them even ride. Of course that might be influenced by the fact that my dad rides as well, but still. A good bike can make a world of difference in your outlook on riding. Think about all the people who hate biking because when you go out on a ride all you see is people in the wrong gear, either grinding up a hill impossibly slowly or spinning at redline, with the seat inevitably too low, usually the bike looks like it is in bad need of a tune-up (or replacement).

Just my two cents...

[bdee]

Something weird happened to the format of this thread when I qouted YerMom - no not your mom, YerMom. It looks like I fixed it, I guess.

Back to the rant - there are plenty of cheap decent bikes for kids that are assembled by shop mechanics, not some dude with powertools at Dick's, Sports Authority etc. They may cost a few more clams but you can pass them on to the next kid, or your neighbor's kid - OR you can donate them. I can't tell you how many bikes I drive by on my way to work that are out in the trash pile and could be fixed up fairly easily.

[Curtis Chase]

Something weird happened to the format of this thread when I qouted YerMom - no not your mom, YerMom. It looks like I fixed it, I guess.

Back to the rant - there are plenty of cheap decent bikes for kids that are assembled by shop mechanics, not some dude with powertools at Dick's, Sports Authority etc. They may cost a few more clams but you can pass them on to the next kid, or your neighbor's kid - OR you can donate them. I can't tell you how many bikes I drive by on my way to work that are out in the trash pile and could be fixed up fairly easily.


Don't be hatin' on Dick's... there's no cheaper place for CO2 cartridges for my pump!

[YerMom]

I agree with the above two posters comments on decent bikes. I guess my point is that there is a low price-point that needs to be met, and the $29.95 bikes out there from Huffy, Magna, Pacific all have to meet that price point that is dictated by huge stores like Wal-Mart, Kmart, etc.

At that price point, which is dictated by those stores and the people that are forking over the green, you can't expect to get a top-notch bike. And good luck finding anything in a size of 16" or 12" wheels that is high quality. It doesn't exist (well, Litespeed's tryke is an exception, and out of most people's budgets).

You get what you pay for. $30 worth of bike. That amount won't even replace my bar-ends or worn-out cleats.

[truckboy]

HUH FEEZ SUCK

Everybody now.... Say it with me.....

HUH FEEZ SUCK
HUH FEEZ SUCK
HUH FEEZ SUCK


Come on..... Do your REALLY dispute the undeniable truth that

HUH FEEZ SUCK!!!!!!!!

Don't be a dullard.

[ArmOnFire]

And for those of you who don't know what a DULLARD is:

dull·ard (dlrd)
n.

A person regarded as mentally dull; a dolt.

[truckboy]

Thank you AOF.

You must certainly be someone who knows that......

come on everybody.....

HUH FEEEZ SUCK!



And jessejamesisadolt.

[YerMom]

HUH FEEZ SUCK

Everybody now.... Say it with me.....

HUH FEEZ SUCK
HUH FEEZ SUCK
HUH FEEZ SUCK


Come on..... Do your REALLY dispute the undeniable truth that

HUH FEEZ SUCK!!!!!!!!

Don't be a dullard.


Looks like someone didn't eat breakfast today.... ::)

http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~veggetto/ritalin-os.jpg

[truckboy]

I think Ritalin-O kid says it best:

heehehehehe!!


oh btw: huffysuck

[Ben-O]

What's wrong with Huffy?


I'll answer that.

RECALL: "The frames of these bicycles can break apart, causing falls and serious injuries to riders."
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml00/00030.html

RECALL: "The handlebar could unexpectedly loosen causing the rider to lose control of bicycle. "
http://www.recall-warnings.com/cpsc-content-04-04164.html

RECALL: "The frames of these bikes can break"
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls/acetrike.html

Shall I go on? Truckboy is right. They're cheap bikes. Who wants to mountain bike when the brakes don't work, seat falls off, and the gears don't shift?

[YerMom]

Yep, you got me alright. Everyone who has ever had a recall sucks.

Huffy. Pacific. Magna. GT. Litespeed. Schwinn. Rockshox. Foxx. GM. Ford. Chrysler. Porsche. VW. Subaru. GE. Panasonic......and on and on and on.

[Ben-O]

Yep, you got me alright. Everyone who has ever had a recall sucks.

Huffy. Pacific. Magna. GT. Litespeed. Schwinn. Rockshox. Foxx. GM. Ford. Chrysler. Porsche. VW. Subaru. GE. Panasonic......and on and on and on.




It's an issue of the number and severity of the recalls. If Porshe and VW sold cars that BREAK APART, your argument would be valid.

Crappy companies that sell crappy merchandise recall more of their crappy products.

[bdee]

Allright enough bitching:

YerMom (not your mom) and Truckboy must now race the race to end all races! Each competitor shall compete astride the Huffy of their choice. To keep things fair neither racer will be allowed to modify or reassemble the bicycle in any fashion. The course will be determined by whomever can deadlift their bicycle the most times before passing out.

Jousting to follow ;D

[YerMom]

Allright enough bitching:

YerMom (not your mom) and Truckboy must now race the race to end all races!




No thanks. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves and move about the cabin.

[MTBME]

I rode my first Tour De Lowell on a Huffy Aerowind road bike quite a ways back. It was a 30 mile road race. Heavy bike. When I got to the finish line I layed my Huffy down in the grass in front of city hall with bikes costing thousands more. I stood back and watched all the finger pointing and giggling as the hard core lycra set had a good laugh at my Huffy. I said to myself, I'll be back next year with a better bike and then I'll show them >:( For the next year I bough a Sears free spirit 10 speed. I took a minute off of the previous years time on the Sears clunker :o That was it for buying cheap bikes. I bought a Peugot racing bike for the next year and could only finish in the pack. What's my point? I don't know. I've been rambling on I forgot my point. Oh Yeah. Sears Free Spirit SUCK. Ya that's it ;)

[AA]

I'm still laughing at the ritalin-o's

(no disrespect to any forum members who formerly or currently take ritalin while riding a Huffy)

[pufdup]

I agree with the above two posters comments on decent bikes. I guess my point is that there is a low price-point that needs to be met, and the $29.95 bikes out there from Huffy, Magna, Pacific all have to meet that price point that is dictated by huge stores like Wal-Mart, Kmart, etc.

At that price point, which is dictated by those stores and the people that are forking over the green, you can't expect to get a top-notch bike. And good luck finding anything in a size of 16" or 12" wheels that is high quality. It doesn't exist (well, Litespeed's tryke is an exception, and out of most people's budgets).

You get what you pay for. $30 worth of bike. That amount won't even replace my bar-ends or worn-out cleats.




I bought my 5 year old an SE Racing bmx for his first real bike. It has 16" wheels. Not all kids are ready for mountain biking at such a young age. It cost a good chunk of ching but it wasn't that bad. My daughter just got her first custom bmx as well and she is nine. Kids should experience cycling from all aspects. Yeah I wish I could bring them on the trails with me but those days are still ahead.

I had to ride huffys growing up because my parents were to cheap to spring for the real deal. Their excuse was that we as kids wouldn't take care of them, so we got huffys and we didn't take care of them, they were pieces of junk.

[mtbtom]

The quality of a Huffy is in line with the value the average American Joe places on a bike - Zilch !

Take for example the kind of reaction you get when you tell non-cyclists how much you spent on your fancy new FS rig - "You spent that much and it didn't even come with a kick stand ?"

I don't think they sell too many Huffy quality bikes in Europe where people actually ride bikes to get places.

So don't blame Huffy for their crappy bikes - they are just filling a market niche.

[truckboy]

First, let me say I'm not trying to insult anybody or their bike choices. I'm just having fun... Really. It's all in fun, like the Ritalin-O's kid says: "heeheheheh!!"

Nobody's blaming Huffy for Sucking...

I'm just aghast that anybody would dispute the indisputable. It's not a matter of opinion, in my humble,... well,... umm,.... opinion. I never said Huffy didn't meet a need in the market, just that they suck!

Like I said in an earlier post, when I and my bike riding buddies were mere kids, we knew how much Huffys sucked. We were 10 years old and KNEW that Huffys sucked. We had other inexpensive bikes like Columbia, Kent, Iverson, and others with stick-on labels instead of metal badges (actually, I think Columbia was a pretty good bike and one of us had a Schwinn Stingray - -a Yellow one!) but none of us had the misfortune of having been given a Huffy. Our parents knew how much Huffys sucked too. When the wicked-cool looking "Thunder Road" came out, with advertizements showing that kid racing around and skidding to a stop we were almost taken in by the glitz. BUT when we saw the actual product and inspected its plastic crap-tastic-ness we knew. Sure enough, within 6 months we saw those bikes in kids' yards, not being ridden because they were broken. Then we knew beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Yes, my friends, my loyal readers, we knew.

And what did we know? Everybody...on 3.

We knew that....

1....2....3!

HUH FEEEZ SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


heeee hehehehe.

[YerMom]

Not to flog a dead horse............and this will be my last post on this subject and on this forum (which I thought would be cool and open-minded, wanted to check it out after getting the latest issue of Singletracks).

To better understand where I am coming from, I used to be on the factory Huffy BMX team in the 80's. Alongside Stu Thompsen. Now some of you may not know who he is (probably too young), but he was an icon of the BMX world and an all around nice guy. Anyway, I can assure you that those Huffy's we rode did not suck (designed and built by Mike Melton, who also did the bikes for the USA Olympic Cycling teams and for Greg LeMond the year he rode a Huffy in the Tour De France. I still have one of those carbon fiber Olympic pursuit frames hanging up in my den). Granted, none of these were production bikes, but to dis a company with such a broad brushstroke is really not being fair. Yes, I have a soft spot for Huffy, but I also have a great distain for people who are quick to generalize and slag.

Peace.

[bdee]

Not to flog a dead horse............and this will be my last post on this subject and on this forum (which I thought would be cool and open-minded, wanted to check it out after getting the latest issue of Singletracks).

To better understand where I am coming from, I used to be on the factory Huffy BMX team in the 80's. Alongside Stu Thompsen. Now some of you may not know who he is (probably too young), but he was an icon of the BMX world and an all around nice guy. Anyway, I can assure you that those Huffy's we rode did not suck (designed and built by Mike Melton, who also did the bikes for the USA Olympic Cycling teams and for Greg LeMond the year he rode a Huffy in the Tour De France. I still have one of those carbon fiber Olympic pursuit frames hanging up in my den). Granted, none of these were production bikes, but to dis a company with such a broad brushstroke is really not being fair. Yes, I have a soft spot for Huffy, but I also have a great distain for people who are quick to generalize and slag.

Peace.







Man it's a bike FORUM pete's sake, please chill. Most of the comments here are made in jest. It's a way to kill time while we're not riding. Stay or go, it's OK. Most of us make sure to preface or end our remarks in such a way as not to offend. If you were offended, sorry, but that's the way it goes when it comes to open discussions. Not everyone was going to ultimately share your point of view, or mine, or Truckboy's, or whomever else posted in this thread. This is argument for the sake of argument and promotes a little critical thinking. Besides we weren't judging anyone, just a crappy bicycle brand.

Most, if not all, of us have good reasons (stated previously) for why we dislike Huffys. They are opinions based on experience and are therefore valid to the one giving his/her opinion. It doesn't mean it's fact, just a well formed opinion.

[Ben-O]

Not to flog a dead horse............and this will be my last post on this subject and on this forum (which I thought would be cool and open-minded, wanted to check it out after getting the latest issue of Singletracks).

To better understand where I am coming from, I used to be on the factory Huffy BMX team in the 80's. Alongside Stu Thompsen. Now some of you may not know who he is (probably too young), but he was an icon of the BMX world and an all around nice guy. Anyway, I can assure you that those Huffy's we rode did not suck (designed and built by Mike Melton, who also did the bikes for the USA Olympic Cycling teams and for Greg LeMond the year he rode a Huffy in the Tour De France. I still have one of those carbon fiber Olympic pursuit frames hanging up in my den). Granted, none of these were production bikes, but to dis a company with such a broad brushstroke is really not being fair. Yes, I have a soft spot for Huffy, but I also have a great distain for people who are quick to generalize and slag.

Peace.





I, and I believe others, don't mean anything personal in this lively discussion. I say everything with a smile! Hang around the forums, there are lots of, uh, less passionate threads!

[ArmOnFire]

As the thread starter, I intended for it to bash Jesse a little.

Then last night I saw he did a project for some inner city high school kids and felt bad.

Oh well, as the others have stated, it's a forum, it's meant to be fun and thought provoking, otherwise, why spend your time here.

No hard feeling meant.

~Dan

[nhiker]

Not to flog a dead horse............and this will be my last post on this subject and on this forum (which I thought would be cool and open-minded, wanted to check it out after getting the latest issue of Singletracks).

To better understand where I am coming from, I used to be on the factory Huffy BMX team in the 80's. Alongside Stu Thompsen. Now some of you may not know who he is (probably too young), but he was an icon of the BMX world and an all around nice guy. Anyway, I can assure you that those Huffy's we rode did not suck (designed and built by Mike Melton, who also did the bikes for the USA Olympic Cycling teams and for Greg LeMond the year he rode a Huffy in the Tour De France. I still have one of those carbon fiber Olympic pursuit frames hanging up in my den). Granted, none of these were production bikes, but to dis a company with such a broad brushstroke is really not being fair. Yes, I have a soft spot for Huffy, but I also have a great distain for people who are quick to generalize and slag.

Peace.






Hmmmmm! I have been sittin back and laughin at this whole exchange. It has been funny. I think my favorite line is Truck boys "Huuuh feeeez Suuuuuck !"

WTH! Now that is funny!
Though Ritalin-o's deserve an honorable mention YerMom!

If anyone thinks that this issue was polarizing and political they should review some of the political debates we have been having on this forum...hehe! Now there was some narrow minded BS coming out there. ;D Boy waz that fun!

Hey Truck boy here is a cheer for ya! 8)

Geeorge doubleya Suuuux! 8)

OOOps hope that didn't hurt anyones feelins :-\ hehe!

But yeah this forum is a place to vent and air out your opinion! Just be prepared to be set upon by a pack of wild dogs with a sense of humor. You are certainly encouraged to return YerMom! We all enjoy a good debate brought about by differing opinions. Just don't take it personal!

[truckboy]

Not to flog a dead horse............and this will be my last post on this subject and on this forum (which I thought would be cool and open-minded, wanted to check it out after getting the latest issue of Singletracks).

To better understand where I am coming from, I used to be on the factory Huffy BMX team in the 80's. Alongside Stu Thompsen. Now some of you may not know who he is (probably too young), but he was an icon of the BMX world and an all around nice guy. Anyway, I can assure you that those Huffy's we rode did not suck (designed and built by Mike Melton, who also did the bikes for the USA Olympic Cycling teams and for Greg LeMond the year he rode a Huffy in the Tour De France. I still have one of those carbon fiber Olympic pursuit frames hanging up in my den). Granted, none of these were production bikes, but to dis a company with such a broad brushstroke is really not being fair. Yes, I have a soft spot for Huffy, but I also have a great distain for people who are quick to generalize and slag.

Peace.







Do you have any sense of humor around Huffy at all, or has the vast difference between your experience with the company versus the rest of the world's beaten it out of you?

This is obviously not the first time you've identified with Huffy and defened it against those who are quick to "generalize and slag". Thing is.. I gave my experience. I and others have actual experience with Huffy bikes sucking. If you had other experience, you didn't do your cause any good by keeping it a secret.

I doubt I would have stopped, I was having too good of a time teasing, but had you shared that before you walked out the door, you may have made some influence.

I dunno. I don't remember seeing the carbon fiber Huffy at my local Zayre's store. Maybe they couldn't bring any new technology to their market, since they've always had a poor image and were at the bottom of the pile. I will not, however, back down from my experience with Huffy bikes. They don't have "Schwinn Toss" competitions.

All I can say is "HEEEhehehe"

[MTBME]

I think the common denominator here is that all cheap bikes costing $79 bucks suck. Whether they are Huffy's, Free Spirits, or Columbias. But they do have their place in society. Everybody starts out on one at some point don't they? I see several in my neighborhood, under decks, stuck in the snow. Nobody would do that to an expensive bike.

The thread did remind us that Huffy did produce high end equipment that the pros were using for awhile. So maybe Huffy deserves a little credit for advancing the sport of cycling in America at a time when it was just turning the corner.

[truckboy]

I guess it's possible they tried to make it into the higher end and jerks like me made sure it didn't happen because we all knew that.........

Now Magna on the other hand... THAT'S a brand I can get behind. I wonder how their BMX team did last season.