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pk
March 2nd, 2004, 10:45 AM
Wompy Riders Take Note.

The town of Norwell is seeking to apply a "home-rule" request to take over a key section of Wompatuck State Forest and turn it into low-income housing.

NEMBA is just now looking into ways to help prevent this since it would affect the Wompatuck trail system and open space.

Here's an article that came out in the Norwell Mariner:

http://www.townonline.com/norwell/news/local_regional/nor_newnowampatuck02262004.htm

State park plan draws response

By Seth Jacobson / sjacobso@cnc.com
Thursday, February 26, 2004

Norwell officials chime in on Wampatuck proposal


Selectmen's proposal to take a portion of Wampatuck State Park and turn it into affordable housing has certainly caught the attention of local and state officials.

Members of the board say they will ask voters at the May 10 annual Town Meeting to approve a measure through a home-rule petition requesting the land from the state. The proposal needs to be approved by Town Meeting before it can be presented to the state. Although selectmen have not specified exactly how much land they would be asking for, Selectman Rick Merritt said the land the town would seek from the state would be on the "fringe" of the park which is currently inaccessible.

State Sen. Robert Hedlund, R-Weymouth, said he doesn't know how receptive the state would be to the idea.

"We have a fairly strong tradition of supporting home-rule petitions," he said. "But under state law, it's hard to take recreation land for this purpose, never mind state-owned recreation land. It's going to be a very interesting topic for some of my colleagues to chew on."

Some officials in Norwell have said the state might laugh at such a proposal.

"Normally, they would laugh," Hedlund said. "But the creation of affordable housing is the hallmark of Gov. (Mitt) Romney's term."

Hedlund said he just completed a project where 44 acres of land in Hingham was added onto the state park and finds it ironic Norwell selectmen are asking for this now.

"I respect the judgment of the Norwell selectmen but I would be very concerned about diminishing available open space unless the land in question is really inaccessible," Hedlund said. He added the proposal is unprecedented and noted, "I applaud the selectmen for their creativity in addressing a very tough issue. It certainly should make Town Meeting a bit more lively."

Officials in Norwell are meeting the proposal with mixed reactions. Norwell Zoning Board Chairman Lois Barbour said she thinks the proposal could turn out to be a good idea.

"I certainly think the town is in a very tough position regarding affordable housing," she said. "The more I look at 40B in general, the less I am convinced that it is about creating affordable housing. I think the town is well within its right to seek possible relief. As much as I would hate to see protected land come out of conservation, if the affordable housing problem is as dire as the state says, it's something we should look at.

"In Norwell, there is so much land that is problematic...I've heard some criticism of the selectmen that they could come up with this idea but it could be an opportunity for a solution."

Barbour said she expects voters will make the right decision, whatever that may be.

"I would be surprised if the state even gave this the mildest consideration," said Community Preservation Committee Chairman Becky Freed. She added one of Norwell's problems is that is has not created an affordable housing committee or partnership. She said her committee is presently in the process of trying to identify tracts of land in each precinct to be used for affordable housing.

"There is a lot of land we have not built upon," Freed said. She added several affordable housing plans have been submitted to selectmen and stressed they should be looked at. Selectmen have put the idea of an affordable housing plan on the back burner because they say none of the ones submitted address an implementation plan.

"I just don't think we need to start breaking up state parks," Freed said.

Attorney J. Marlin Hawthorne, who has been outspoken on the affordable housing issue in town, said he doesn't think the state park idea is such a good one.

"This is a political ploy by selectmen to make it look like they're doing something when they're actually doing nothing," he said. "Suppose voters approve it at Town Meeting. Will the state turn land over? I don't think so. I'm embarrassed and ashamed of this and to tell you the truth, I've given up."

Hawthorne was one of the people who submitted an affordable housing plan to the town and said it would be an effective tool in trying to remedy the problem.

"Nobody's affordable housing plan addressed how we implement the creation of affordable housing over the long haul, including (Hawthorne's)," said Selectman Paul Gaynor. "And that's the most important aspect of the plan."

He added the Wampatuck proposal is a valid one.

"It's a chance for the state to show how serious it is about affordable housing," he said. "The chances of this passing is reasonably small, but it's worth exploring."

Meanwhile, Gaynor said selectmen are working with the Community Preservation Committee to identify tracts of land around town and are forming an affordable housing policy to allow the town to evaluate different 40B projects.

Town Planner Ilana Quirk said the planning board met Monday night and issued a statement on the proposal the next morning which said, "The Wampatuck State Park proposal should be explored and so should every possible avenue that could lead to the development of affordable housing in town."

"I realize there's pressure to create affordable housing, but this doesn't seem like it's something that should happen," added Conservation Commission Chairman Burt Bryan.

Chapter 40B legislation, passed in the late 1960s, allows developers to get comprehensive permits for projects where a percentage of the units are deemed affordable, allowing them to circumvent local zoning bylaws. The law allows developers to build under 40B regulations if less than 10 percent of a town's available housing is deemed affordable. About 3 percent of housing in Norwell is considered affordable.

Slider
March 2nd, 2004, 11:31 AM
I'll chain myself to a tree if it comes to that. They have no idea the place is a shrine.

You KNOW they're thinking: Low income rabble. Let's stick 'em off in a corner of the town somewhere.

I'd bet they won't even look at land on the river, since all the monied live nearby. Can't ruin their view, so let's plow under the only state recreational land we can find.

Slider

bdee
March 2nd, 2004, 01:39 PM
Does everyone agree this will be very important in terms of precedent setting actions taken by towns and the State of Massachusetts? Hopefully it fails miserably and the town residents vote it down before it gets a chance. If the town has other land available for affordable housing hopefully negative response to the Wompy idea will force the town to examine the other possibilities more closely.
My impression of the general area around Wompy is that it is, like most towns in the general area, an expensive (overpriced?) place to live. One factor that may keep the idea from gaining any ground is a fear of affordable housing units dragging down property value in general, and the loss of public space to boot. If the town has to add the housing presumably the residents would choose to do so w/out losing established open/recreational space.
The issue of affordable housing is definitely huge, and the need exists for housing created for those making under 100k a year. Romney's administration has recognized that if it wants to stem the resource drain (a work force that recognizes greener pastures in places like N.C. etc.) that has already begun it must address the issue of affordable housing. Anyway it will be interesting to watch, hopefully the State doesn't take the idea seriously.

CouchingTiger
March 2nd, 2004, 01:56 PM
Unfortunately, I see both sides of the issue here. The state is mandating "affordable housing" upon the towns but is giving no real aid. The towns such as Norwell really don't want the affordable housing in the 1st place. I think the town is just getting creative and putting the burdon back onto the state. I applaud that creativity.

I think that it is unfortunate that this is going to come down to a p!ssing contest over conservation land. I see this whole thing as a lose-lose situation.

-Couch

pk
March 2nd, 2004, 03:16 PM
I think that regardless of the town's motivations or the broader state-wide politics, our mission should be to protect recreational opportunities and open space.

Unfortunately, we have VERY few Norwell members. Hence our focus will probably be to mail letters to various state officials, as well as the town council.

Just think of the potential damage to our park systems if every town was allowed to carve out chunks for their own purposes. Not a nice precedent at all.

pk

AA
March 2nd, 2004, 03:21 PM
One of my brothers lives in Norwell, I'll ask him to vote NO.

CouchingTiger
March 2nd, 2004, 03:57 PM
Actually not for "their own" purposes, but for widely unpopular state mandated purposes, in this case.

It's all hippie agenda if you ask me ;)

-Couch


I think that regardless of the town's motivations or the broader state-wide politics, our mission should be to protect recreational opportunities and open space.

Unfortunately, we have VERY few Norwell members. Hence our focus will probably be to mail letters to various state officials, as well as the town council.

Just think of the potential damage to our park systems if every town was allowed to carve out chunks for their own purposes. Not a nice precedent at all.

pk

DEE
March 2nd, 2004, 06:09 PM
Afforadable housing....is just a come on. A similair issue came up on the Hingham Weymouth line.. and to obtain the land one will say "for affordable housing" Then just need to put in a few units... Then the expensive homes went up.... My chiroractor is an avid biker and rides in Wompy year round. I live in Hull and the politics in these surrounding towns is something. Afforadable housing in this area is a joke!
Lets hope this does not happen! :-[

RubbaBubba
March 3rd, 2004, 12:38 AM
Over my cold, dead body.

Mr Magoo
March 3rd, 2004, 09:30 AM
give them the land mined or asbsetos boilers area

March 3rd, 2004, 10:04 AM
Ah, more from the people who can come up with an incessant barrage of environmental issues as to why a footpath in the woods would/could destroy the planet, yet how beneficial a highway, golf course, housing, industrial park, mall, swimming pool, tennis courts, parking lots, gravel pits, quarries, sewage and waste dumps, indiscrimanant "forest harvesting" and just plain total neglect...oh boy i'm rambling, sorry just had to let it out

T Grimble
March 3rd, 2004, 08:04 PM
Actually not for "their own" purposes, but for widely unpopular state mandated purposes, in this case.

It's all hippie agenda if you ask me ;)

-Couch


Not sure I got this straight. Are you calling Mitt a hippie?

Isn't State land under a Conservation Restriction? If so wouldn't the EOEA would defend any encroachment into the land? This might be an interesting issue to watch but if we all just sit back and watch we might not be happy with the result. I am interested in hearing what action SEMass is planning.

March 3rd, 2004, 09:03 PM
Would anyone defend it? That depends on what the "mitigating' circumstances. A lot can be mitigated away regardless of what restrictions were initially placed/

huff'npuff
March 4th, 2004, 07:40 AM
Would anyone defend it? That depends on what the "mitigating' circumstances. A lot can be mitigated away regardless of what restrictions were initially placed/


Excuse me......did you mean "MITTigating"?? ::)

March 4th, 2004, 08:07 AM
Now see, this guy is on the ball. Took something serious and "Mitt"igated it with a little comedy. Capitol

pk
March 4th, 2004, 08:26 AM
Isn't State land under a Conservation Restriction? If so wouldn't the EOEA would defend any encroachment into the land?


State Parks don't have conservation restrictions, and in certain cases may be reclassified through an act of the legislature.

pk

digger
March 4th, 2004, 09:00 AM
Protection of state lands (where CRs don't exist) falls under Article 97 of the State Constitution and there legislation in the Mass General Court to strengthen Article 97. See http://www.massaudubon.org/News_&_Action/Priorities/ActotProtectHistoricResources.pdf

I'm not sure of the status of the bill (S. 1254) but MA NEMBA members might consider contacting their representatives to encourage their support.

This is an interesting article about the history of this type of conversion of parkland by home-rule petition. http://www.masspirg.org/reports/thisland/

Other reading google "article 97 massachusetts constitution"

March 4th, 2004, 09:12 AM
Also a wealth of info @ massland.org concerning the general concern of the mass legislature towards it publicly held properties